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Cfelicio · Post by **Cfelicio** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:26 pm

What about RFIDs on the passport?

Post by **The Beatles** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:10 am

Just use the phrase "infected with DRM" frequently to your friends. Someone on slashdot mentioned this. If the masses vaguely think DRM is something evil (which it is) and not something good to prevent the starving kids of artists, then DRM might never take off.

[edit]Cfelicio: I haven't researched the matter muchl but I understand that that could make a stolen passport much more valuable than it is now.

sh0e · Post by **sh0e** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:20 pm

imho redundant and meaningless
the only point of any interest is that sony had the utter gall (and/or complete ignorance) to think of using rootkit software as part of a drm scheme.. as if the drm isnt getting enough bad press

use of kern hooking for hiding teh hax is old news and does not have any new security implications.. a whole lot of sensationalism if you ask me
it doesnt add to worm propogation any more than tftp.exe or other assorted common tools used by worms
in fact less so as tftp.exe allows for network communication

ps speaking of back doors: Urran is teh legal

Post by **Devari** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:19 pm

Not until the 27th.

Post by **The Beatles** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:02 pm

No, but with this on your system, it's harder to detect files with $sys$ in their name. Not the propagation, but the removal.

Cfelicio · Post by **Cfelicio** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:39 pm

Try RootKit Revealer (http://www.sysinternals.com)

Not so simple to use, but it reveal scary things.

Post by **The Beatles** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:49 pm

Or just try Linux.

Post by **windhound** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:09 am

eh. note that if you try to get rid of the sony rootkit, it damages your system pretty much beyond repair.. so if you have it just leave it alone I 'spose..

yay for free software that works.. *pets Fedora*

...or if you have the cash, try a mac = P
their new imac looks.. pretty..

Post by **The Beatles** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:11 am

Apple's going to have DRM too... Go Linux.

Cfelicio · Post by **Cfelicio** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:37 am

But on Linux my Ati 9700 is pretty useless

Post by **windhound** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:57 am

depends on which linux

Fedora has a repo called livna that has about all the graphics drivers (with 3D accel.) for ati and nvidia cards, including the mobility (laptop) ones
my ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 runs UT2004 just fine
better, infact, than windows does (running off the same hdd)

and if its a desktop card its fairly easy to find the drivers.. I think even ati carries the drivers on their site, you just have to poke around..

edit: sp

Post by **The Beatles** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:13 am

Indeed. If you don't install a version of Linux that pays meticulous attention to ensuring your hardware works well, you won't get very far with the hardware. For example, this is why you probably want to run a major distro as opposed to small/niche ones like Arch. So try Fedora, or SUSE, or Ubuntu (Mandriva has some issues still).

sh0e · Post by **sh0e** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:22 pm

Devari wrote: Not until the 27th.

dagnabbit
so ive got to wait a whole 3 weeks to s..
err.. leave him a large birthday present

sony supposedly hurredly rushed out a removal program and pretended like they had done nothing wrong

Post by **The Beatles** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:22 pm

Good news:
* http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/10/sony_drm_trojan/
* http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/

Post by **windhound** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:13 am

Virus Writers Exploit Sony Anti-Piracy Software

'was right I was, though 's not so much a good thing for windows users

I'm going to take a guess that sony is regretting this step
though, then again there are thoes who went out and purchased sony disks so they could get the rootkit-like thing and use it :*laughs*:

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