The Blood Bath

[elvis]

ruddertail who are you in bfr?

If you want to keep in a secrect thats okay im j/w

[Devari]

I can tell you, considering he messaged me personally and it is one of his commonly used names:

Ebony Returns (#34)

[taint_of_the_dark_ones]

Guys, i'm not having a go at you, i'm not complaining, but what you are doing is unfair, and will in the long run, lose you further members. What ROCK is doing is a load of crap, my reasons for believing this are:

1) Whenever someone breaks protection, that have only used a limited amount of turns. The members of ROCK however, have been running turns freely, and have a clear advantage over the person breaking protection.
2) The fact ROCK is made up of the more senior player base, and that they are all in alliance to kill whoever breaks protection while they are still weak with only a limited amount of turns used.
3) Active ROCK members number 6 out of the 10 players who have broken protection, and they are all clearly ahead in NW, again, thanks to reason number 1.
4) The 6 members of ROCK have been running turns, storing units, and are able to combine attacks at certain targets at will. The person targeted again has only just left protection, and because ROCK number the most in the server, will struggle to repel such attacks.
5) The second someone outside of ROCK attacks one of their members, they are instantly retaliated against, and more then likely, killed.


This is the facts, I am not exagerating, because this has already happened to many members. If you had the guts, you would allow the other players to leave protection, make a few runs to try and catch up to the lead you have made, then we will have your bloodbath, but at least everyone else will stand a chance. As the server currently stands, nothing can be done to unseat ROCK, as their underhand tactics make it far to easy for them to win. If the players making up ROCK realy are any good, they would allow the other players a chance to build there power up, and the true war begin.

I await your response to this with much trepedition, although I'm sure my ideas will be sweapt away as nothing but useless moaning.
Taint

[Slasher]

Well said!

[The Otter Horde]

OH YEAH!! Bring it on!! I normally don't play BFR, but... WHO COULD MISS THIS!! OH yeah!! I am with you, FWF!! Let's show these "high and mighty" admins what trouble we can make!! Let's Roll!

[Fresh Water Fighters]

O well I still think we still need more than just you and me...
Hey Ruddertail want to join my clan and halp take down ROCK???
PM me for the pass if you want to.
~FWF

[taint_of_the_dark_ones]

congratulations rock, you've managed to do it again. I had only just broken protection, and you killed me of with your superior numbers. I believe the entire clan was involved, that was certainly a fair fight.

I am still waiting for a reply, or are you to chicken to answer my questions, guess that means everything I said was correct, and you realy are cowards.

FWF, if you'd pm me the password, i'll give you a hand.

[Urran Voh]

I sure hope I don't lose my friggen head replying to your idiodic accusations, taint.

First of all..more than 5 accounts have been deleted after making one land grab. Second of all this is a BLOOD BATH. If you don't want to be killed, don't sign up! It's as simple as that all of you jackasses who want to cry about being killed. Being killed has happened to the best of us on more than one occasion.

Thirdly, I was not involved in any killings....yet.

[pal90]

who do we know this is true? could always be a lie or a way to decieve us >_>

[taint_of_the_dark_ones]

Sorry, Urran, but you didn't answer any of the points I posed. I don't care about being killed, i've already resigned up, what I do care about I have already mentioned, and would like to be adressed. I don't care about the fact you guys killed me, it just makes me want to kill you more, which I will eventually achieve.

[Urran Voh]

who do we know this is true?

Read my previous posts.

1) Whenever someone breaks protection, that have only used a limited amount of turns. The members of ROCK however, have been running turns freely, and have a clear advantage over the person breaking protection.

More than 10 non-ROCK accounts have broken protection. 5 of them have deleted. 3 of elvis and 1 of pal90 that I know for a fact.

2) The fact ROCK is made up of the more senior player base, and that they are all in alliance to kill whoever breaks protection while they are still weak with only a limited amount of turns used.

The first 2 kills were made right after they broke protection, yes. Why? Because we thought them a threat. The other 2 kills were made after the warband had time to make at least two runs I believe.

3) Active ROCK members number 6 out of the 10 players who have broken protection, and they are all clearly ahead in NW, again, thanks to reason number 1.

It's our fault that we would like to have fun one round to make up for all the crap some of the members give us? (I am not putting anyone down..I enjoy the FAF community more than any other Promi I have been a part of)

4) The 6 members of ROCK have been running turns, storing units, and are able to combine attacks at certain targets at will. The person targeted again has only just left protection, and because ROCK number the most in the server, will struggle to repel such attacks.

So why don't the non-ROCK members store troops on 5K land? Easily done while running Agrarian or cashing.

I've accounted for 4 out of your 5 points myself and I haven't been around except for 870 turns now...

[taint_of_the_dark_ones]

Thanks for the response, it sure was interesting to read your point of view. I can understand your points of view, but here's some of my own.

More than 10 non-ROCK accounts have broken protection. 5 of them have deleted. 3 of elvis and 1 of pal90 that I know for a fact.

That's an accepted truth, however, you will find that the 6 rock members still have an advantage, being able to pick targets with a reasonable amount of immunity from retal strikes.

The first 2 kills were made right after they broke protection, yes. Why? Because we thought them a threat. The other 2 kills were made after the warband had time to make at least two runs I believe.

Well, almost correct. Since I was one of the accounts killed after breaking protection, I had made one run since then, so a total of 650 turns, most of these were used balancing my hawks, meaning not many units could be made after that amount of time, and the max amount of cash I could make was 7bil, not quiet enough to repel the entire ROCK clan I believe.

It's our fault that we would like to have fun one round to make up for all the crap some of the members give us? (I am not putting anyone down..I enjoy the FAF community more than any other Promi I have been a part of)

Reason accepted, but doesn't take into account you still number the most active accounts, reason, most people don't want to break protection. I believe they should however, give you to many targets to possibly kill, meaning a reasonable offence could be made.

So why don't the non-ROCK members store troops on 5K land? Easily done while running Agrarian or cashing.

Well, it's not that easy is it. With only a limited amount of used turns, it's not that easy to stock troops. I said I made 7bil in that time, wasn't enough was it, and 7bil for 650 turns, especially the first 650 turns were you have to gather land, is a very decent amount.

I've accounted for 4 out of your 5 points myself and I haven't been around except for 870 turns now...

I'm sure you could of used more by now, and I bet the other ROCK members have used more.

Thanks again for the response, it was good to see the other side of the arguement.

[ohmyjapan16]

1. It's a blood bath
2. We don't need reasons
3. You guys making these whiney arguments pisses us off even more

[taint_of_the_dark_ones]

1. It's a blood bath
2. We don't need reasons
3. You guys making these whiney arguments pisses us off even more

Wow, what a great counter arguement. I can't believe you took the time to write that response. You know, i'd consider that more whinning than anything I have said so far. You can't even come up with a considerate answer. You all wanted this bloodbath so much, but didn't think of good reasons to back it up. Thanks again for your input ohmyjapan16, it's good to see ROCK's side of the arguement.

[Ruddertail]

I think Taint makes a very good argument. I've been given a chance, I've used over 1k turns now. However, others have not. I think you should give them one. Another side of this, if you stop killing people before they have a chance to do anything, pal and elvis might stop their suicide attacks, and fight fair. I can't blame them for fighting dirty, since killing people as they break protection is just as dirty as what they do.

I don't mind if I get killed after a few runs. Since I intend to kill ROCK, I expect them to kill, or try to kill, me. But ROCK should at least give people a chance. Let them have a few runs, get over 1.5k in turn usage, and then start killing. That way, people have a chance to plan, and kill. Let's make this a fair bloodbath, ok?

On a side note, Japan, if that's all the arguement you can present, don't bother. You're only injuring your side by doing that. It was quite pathetic. A bloodbath is no reason to to figth dirty. Taint's argument was not at all whiney, either. Yours was closer to a whiny argument.