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Hey, that's a good idea. Certain tribes would start in N. America, certain tribes in Central, and certain tribes in the south. Perhaps they could move, but I'd make that a high-cost thing. Packing up and moving a whole tribe isn't done in a day.

Nuke, rotations wouldn't work very well for WOA (No resets), but I do like the idea for BFR.

The Ancient America seems most popular, so I vote we go with that for WOA, and possibly a rotation for BFR.

Hmm, idea.

There are regions, and locations.

As a tribe, you are assigned to a certain region. North, Central, or South America. For example, the Aztecs are in Central America, but the Iriquios would be in North America.

Each region has varying troop types. North American tribes might have strong offensive Canoes (otters), and strong defensive Spearsmen (hares), while Central American might have strong offensive warriors (mice), and strong defensive archers (hares).

Then there are locations, the equivilent of our current regions. They would be:

Mountains: (25% bonus to shamans/preists(hawks), as your magic workers could work undisturbed by other people's armys, and a slight defensive bonus (+5% - 10%). However, a servere detrement ( - 20%) to production, food, cash, and offensive strength, keeps this region from being useful for anyone but a magicer.

Plains: (30% bonus to industry, otherwise no bonuses or deficits). The default location, and the place to be for

Valleys: (+ 20% to food and cash. - 10% to defense, - 5% to offense, production.) The agrarian or casher's place to be. Resonable for a magicer-anything else combo, as well.

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Are you guys serious about this pre-colonization America thing? I don't think it'd be too popular, and while it is pretty unique isn't not terribly interesting.
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Well, I'm seriously considering it. Urran and Nuke both seem to like it. And we haven't gotten much feedback from anybody else, really. What would you propose?
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Post by Floppy_Drive »

A change would help. I do not think the pre-colonization america would be that good...
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I think it would be fun, but I agree its popularity would be dubious. Your ideas?
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Ruddertail wrote: Hey, that's a good idea. Certain tribes would start in N. America, certain tribes in Central, and certain tribes in the south. Perhaps they could move, but I'd make that a high-cost thing. Packing up and moving a whole tribe isn't done in a day.

Nuke, rotations wouldn't work very well for WOA (No resets), but I do like the idea for BFR.

The Ancient America seems most popular, so I vote we go with that for WOA, and possibly a rotation for BFR.

Hmm, idea.

There are regions, and locations.

As a tribe, you are assigned to a certain region. North, Central, or South America. For example, the Aztecs are in Central America, but the Iriquios would be in North America.

Each region has varying troop types. North American tribes might have strong offensive Canoes (otters), and strong defensive Spearsmen (hares), while Central American might have strong offensive warriors (mice), and strong defensive archers (hares).

Then there are locations, the equivilent of our current regions. They would be:

Mountains: (25% bonus to shamans/preists(hawks), as your magic workers could work undisturbed by other people's armys, and a slight defensive bonus (+5% - 10%). However, a servere detrement ( - 20%) to production, food, cash, and offensive strength, keeps this region from being useful for anyone but a magicer.

Plains: (30% bonus to industry, otherwise no bonuses or deficits). The default location, and the place to be for

Valleys: (+ 20% to food and cash. - 10% to defense, - 5% to offense, production.) The agrarian or casher's place to be. Resonable for a magicer-anything else combo, as well.
Archers should be more Offensive, IMO. Warriors, more Defensive. But if we do the militarys' off/def points by race, it should matter not.

Are you saying we have locations within each continent? :blink:

Regions in North America:
Forest
River

Regions in Central America:
Mountains
Desert

Regions in South America:
Jungle
Mountain (couldn't think of any other prominent landform in South America)
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Are you guys serious about this pre-colonization America thing? I don't think it'd be too popular, and while it is pretty unique isn't not terribly interesting.
We asked around for ideas ;)

IMO, Pre-Colonized America is better than any futuristic idea...Bows and Arrers rox the sox off of guns, and the idea hasn't been done before.
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Well I dunno, Hack shutdown before I found it but from what I have read on the forums a theme like that might be nice too.
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Are you saying we have locations within each continent?
Yeah. Continents would be determined by race, and have differing offensive and defensive strengths for troops. You would not be able to change continents, and would have to perpare (magic users) to attack from one to the other.

Locations would be like our current regions. You could move from location to location, and they would give certain bonuses, like our current location. However, you would not have to prepare magic users to attack from location to location, as it doesn't take magic to march from the plains down into a valley, or from the valley to the mountains...

Archers should be more Offensive, IMO. Warriors, more Defensive. But if we do the militarys' off/def points by race, it should matter not.
Meh, it was just an ilustration. I wouldn't do it by race, but by continent. Save a little complexity for the newbies. And the oldbies, for that matter.

Slasher, Nev suggested that, though somewhat jokingly. It would be kind of fun, but I think FAF would be better with a more serious theme.
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Urran Voh wrote: We asked around for ideas ;)

IMO, Pre-Colonized America is better than any futuristic idea...Bows and Arrers rox the sox off of guns, and the idea hasn't been done before.
Which I've already given. ^_^

IMO, just because it hasn't been done before doesn't mean it's a good thing. I don't know how many futuristic prom games there are out there, but there are a ton that are extremely popular. The same goes for fantasy/medieval proms. But you never know, it might work really well.
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Post by Devari »

Unfortunately, I doubt the popularity of a game centered around the Americas.

At the very least, we simply cannot do all three Americas at once. Either we would essentially gloss over most North American tribes, or we center in one location and focus more on the conflict between locals. Also, one must remember that the logistics of a North-South America attack would be IMPOSSIBLE!

If we do take the Americas as one of/the only theme, then we would surely have to center in one region. I personally would suggest Central America, simply because the Aztec vs. Tlaxcala vs. Mayan kind of dynamic is much more well known. In addition, those people were the most war-like. If we wanted, throwing in the Incas and some filler tribes wouldn't be bad, although the Incas were South America.


I'm going to have to agreee with Nohc here, though. Just because it is unique does not mean it will be popular. For Historical ides, the ancient Far East and ancient Europe/Africa/Middle East work better.

But I'm not opposed to the Americas, persay.
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True. Some good points there. So, maybe Americas as one of the rotating themes, if we rotate for BFR?

I do like the ideas of Regions and Areas as proposed above, and it could be done in any theme.

I like Ancient Far or Middle east, though Japan or Europe would be fine too. I think...

Nohc? Or was it Japan? Somebody proposed Medevil Japan, with Samurai, Ninjas, etc. That would be another cool one.

Of course, Mediterainian, though that might have been covered in the middle east. But we could have the Romans, the Greeks, The northern barbarians, some Arab peoples, the Carthaginians, and maybe a few others that I've missed. I'm not sure.

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Post by Nuclear Raunch »

We don't necessarily have to change WoA at the same time we do BFR. We could try a few different themes on BFR and use the most popular theme for WoA.

Hey Rudder, can you edit this thread to include a poll to see what theme is the most popular so we can start working on races and troops for it?
I know the voices in my head arn't real but they usually have some pretty good ideas.
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I'll make a new topic. It'll go up the day after tormorrow, so you'll have all Thanksgiving to think of any other ideas you want to add. Then we'll make the poll, you can do a prelim vote, but it'll mainly be for discussion. After that, well, we'll go from there.
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Post by gondor »

ok so we want to get this all done for next set?
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No. We do want to get this done, however.
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