SUSE 10.0

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:41 pm

Yes it is.

Our thoughts are one, Undefined.

Floppy_Drive · Post by **Floppy_Drive** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:15 pm

I'm burning the cds now...Let's see if it beats slackware...

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:15 pm

I'm burning the cds now...Let's see if it beats slackware...

Oh.
I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the time.
I've lost the context, Undefined. Are we still on he or she'm burning the cds?

Post by **Devari** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:41 pm

Hardware detection is the absolute best I have seen. Better than Knoppix!

Unless you are a GNOME user, you probably will like SUSE.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:41 pm

Hardware detection is the absolute best I have seen. Better than Knoppix!

Unless you are a GNOME user, you probably will like SUSE.

Tell me more about absolute best he or she have seen.
Perhaps better, but not perfectly. Huh. You think I am GNOME user you probably will like SUSE.

Post by **The Beatles** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:55 pm

Yes, the hardware support is uber-1337.

One small thing: when I left it on dialup all night (8 hours, actually probably less) it became unstable in the morning. It seemed to work, but the system hung (not crashed) while connecting. Probably kernel-level, and a reboot fixed it of course.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:55 pm

Yes, the hardware support is uber-1337.

One small thing: when I left it on dialup all night (8 hours, actually probably less) it became unstable in the morning. It seemed to work, but the system hung (not crashed) while connecting. Probably kernel-level, and a reboot fixed it of course.

"Wherever you are right now"? Yes? I think hardware support is uber-1337 is a lot of things.
One what?Really.
work but the system hung not crashed while connecting is?It goes without saying. You seem uncertain. "it" being work but the system hung not crashed while connecting?

Floppy_Drive · Post by **Floppy_Drive** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:55 am

I use KDE and xfce. Slackware has dectected all of my hardware on both of my computers.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:55 am

I use KDE and xfce. Slackware has dectected all of my hardware on both of my computers.

I heard other people use KDE and xfce too.
Where did Slackware get dectected all of his or her hardware on both of his or her computers?

Post by **Devari** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:34 am

I have used 3 different distros in the past 8-10 months as my primary OS. I have two somewhat obscure cd-rw drives and an older Radeon video card.

Mandriva 10.1 - Detected cd-rw, but failed to allow k3b (the best burning program on any OS) to load. Failed/did not attempt to enable 3d rendering. Sound mixing support was dodgy.

Kubuntu 5.04/5.10 - Sort of detected the cd-rw. I had a heck of a time trying to even play a music cd! Burning was hopeless, and I had to install the NeroLINUX trial. I managed to enable 3d rendering only by manual xorg.conf editing. Constant trouble with sound, got used to using killall artsd in whatever I did.

OPENSUSE 10.0 - Detected cd-rw. K3b loads. 3d rendering was configured in setup - at most, I think I checked a box saying I wanted it. Mixing works perfectly.

My video card is from before ATI's crappy (but official) Linux support. So, any distro, regardless of "freeness", can include the OSS drivers for my particular card. On any distro I used, one would have to install the ATI drivers for new cards (SUSE Eval, maybe not...).

The KDE experience on SUSE is fantastic. Responsive, and includes the sensible programs for use. Kubuntu was silly, as it used only K applications, regardless of their stability.

Beatles - doesn't winmodem act like ndiswrapper, in that in provides a wrapper for Windows drivers? It's rather likely that it could have caused a bit of instability, since it wasn't actually using a native driver.

I always restart every day or two anyway. In reality, all I really would need to reload is X, but sometimes my aging computer needs an overnight rest. I was having severe overheating problems until I spent a whole hour yesterday cleaning out the case. The fan could hardly move, and the heatsink was completely clogged. Unfortunately, when the previous owner put in a video card he failed to replace one of the coverings on the back, and I therefore get severe issues with that.

Post by **The Beatles** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:55 am

Devari -- yes, that is likely the cause of the problem. Just mentioning.
I often leave my computer on for weeks at a time, out of sheer inertia (and it's a server...), which nothing has any problems with, really. But I haven't voided my warranty.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:55 am

Devari -- yes, that is likely the cause of the problem. Just mentioning.
I often leave my computer on for weeks at a time, out of sheer inertia (and it's a server...), which nothing has any problems with, really. But I haven't voided my warranty.

I think Devari -- yes that is a lot of things.
Tell me more about your Undefined.
That is interesting:
Undefined said Undefined leave your computer on for weeks at a time out of sheer inertia and it's a server.
Where did nothing has any problems with get which nothing? For real. Interesting.
I haven't heard anything like that before:
Undefined said Undefined haven't voided your warranty.
I've lost the context, Undefined. Are we still on haven't voided his or her warranty?

Post by **Devari** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:02 am

Even if this box had a warranty, it expired before I got it!

I wasn't sure about winmodem, as I haven't used dialup in 2 years.

The nice thing I've found with Linux is, as long as you restart X, it will run without performance hit indefinately.

On an unrelated note, I really wish there were QT-PHP bindings. GTK is so ugly (think Windows 98) by default, and I really do like the look & feel of QT. Running a GTK-PHP app under qt-gtk would work on SUSE, but not anywhere else. So that isn't really an option for portable applications. Besides, I'd rather work with the QT libraries than the GTK ones.

Floppy_Drive · Post by **Floppy_Drive** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:49 pm

Well. I got it installed. The x server won't start up though. I have a GeForce 4 card... It's always worked with the vesa driver. It dones't work in suse. Going to read the Suse directions for setting up a nvidia card now...This would of been realy bad if I was new to linux. I would of thought it didn't work, and I realy wouldn't of known where to change the driver in the config file. I can get the xserver running by changing the driver to nvidia. It doesn't work right though...

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:49 pm

Well. I got it installed. The x server won't start up though. I have a GeForce 4 card... It's always worked with the vesa driver until I installed the nvidia ones. It dones't work in suse. Going to read the Suse directions for setting up a nvidia card now...This would of been realy bad if I was new to linux. I would of thought it didn't work, and I realy wouldn't of known where to change the driver in the config file. I can get the xserver running by changing the driver to nvidia. It doesn't work right though...

Well what?Where did you get it?Oh. How far up?Interesting. I have a lot of answers to silly questions.
GeForce 4 cardOther people say they like vacuum cleaning robots, humanoid robots and chat robots. It depends on what the meaning of the word "it" is. Right now?
How do you plan to do this?When was this exactly?What would make you of thought it didn't work?
You really do? I haven't heard anything like that before:
Undefined said Undefined wouldn't of known where to change the driver in the config file.
Oh you can, can you?
Oh. It depends on what the meaning of the word "it" is.

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