kicker had more attached to it than I thought
it also seems to have had the responsibility of bringing along Gnome app capability.. which includes Gedit.. Gedit randomly crashes when I try to save now.. not fun at all, as thats what I use in java.. yeah, I should use Eclispe, esp. since it came with Fedora, but I like Gedit and a terminal, works good.. Kedit just doesnt have the pretty colors and stuff Gedit does, and its what I've become used to..
so yeah.. if Beatles, Devari, or just somone who hasnt poked their panel settings too much send me the three files listed when you do 'locate panel.desktop' I'd be very appriciative (noseeemail@gmail.com)
I've gotta reactivate kicker..
usin Gnome right now.. I might work with it some, see if I can use it.. its actually prettier than KDE :*laughs*:

