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I hacked kinternet to store WEP keys in kwallet. srpm tomorrow!
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Wow the IRC people are /actually helpful/ ... where is the world coming to...
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To avoid grief, adding a 9.3 repo may be worth it:

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root@tokaj ~ # installation_sources -s
Installation Sources:
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (cd:///;devices=/dev/hdb)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source-java/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/10.0/SUSE-Linux10.0-GM-Extra/)
[x]  guru (SUSE LINUX 10.0) (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/)
[x]  scorot rpms (SUSE LINUX 10.0) (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-scorot/suse100/)
[x]  supplementary KDE 3.4 update (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.0/yast-source)
[x]  supplementary GNOME 2.12 update (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.0/yast-source)
[x]  contributions by Robert Schiele (http://pi3.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/~schiele/suse/10.0/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (http://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/)
[x]  guru (SUSE LINUX 10.0) (http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/10.0/inst-source-extra/)
[x]  http://packman.inode.at/suse/10.0// (http://packman.inode.at/suse/10.0/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/9.3/)
[x]  SUSE LINUX Version 9.3 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/9.3/)
Without that, for example, no tellico etc.
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Post by Devari »

Er... Are you sure? Can't binary incompatibility cause major problems?

My sources:

[x] SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (http://216.165.129.140/pub/opensuse/dis ... nst-source)
[x] SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/dist ... ource-java)
[x] SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/10. ... 0-GM-Extra)
[x] SUSE LINUX Version 10.0 (http://216.165.129.140/pub/suse/i386/10 ... urce-extra)
[x] Packman (SuSE LINUX 10.0) (http://packman.rsync.zmi.at/suse/10.0)
[x] supplementary KDE 3.4 update (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/supp ... ast-source)
[x] supplementary GNOME 2.12 update (ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/supp ... ast-source)
[x] scorot rpms (SUSE LINUX 10.0) (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-scorot/suse100)
[ ] guru (SUSE LINUX 10.0) (ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0)

As you can see, I actually have guru off. It seemed to cause some dependancy complaints.
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No. Packages compiled for one version should run just fine on the other, and more up-to-date packages will be updated anyways.

The guru problems I've seen are just that they
a. depend on a package not in 10.0 (but in 9.3!)
or
b. have -guru appended to them, which sometimes confuses the version-determining algorithm (can be fixed manually)

So in summary, I'd recommend the 9.3 repo. :)
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True. I do remember some really odd instability/dependency issues between my hoary/breezy dist-upgrade on Ubuntu, though.

What kind of packages are in the 9.3 repos that you cannot get for 10.0? Considering building RPMs doesn't seem to be TOO hard for SUSE (haven't tried it yet), for smaller apps it may just make more sense to build an rpm from source.

What useful stuff actually is in guru?
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http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=16045

Interesting tweak. Makes sense for people like me on a mainstream cable provider. (http://www.shaw.ca/)

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Haven't checked the link yet, but -- tellico! Its dependency, libyaz, is in 9.3. True, it is also in rpmfind.net, and probably the SUSE CDs, but I prefer a repo...



p.s. I already knew you're on Shaw. Last time in Vancouver I tried to track you down, which I did by your IP.
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Nope, tellico and libyaz are in my 10.0 repos as well.

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I set it to refresh automatically. Weird, I shall get to the bottom of this.
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Incomplete mirror? Or package list from mirror?
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Probably the former...
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Very wierd. mirrors.kernel.org does have both packages in the repos. Have you tried looking at the version tab of the package under yast?
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I'm downloading SuSe right now. Why are some of the cd isos bigger than 700MB? How am I going to fit that on a cd?

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Post by Devari »

Don't CDs these days come with 700 MB? Besides, you can probably overburn a bit.

Speaking of burning CDs, K3B is fantastic. I have two rather funky cd burners, and k3b on Mandriva and Ubuntu always crashed on startup. SUSE is the first distro to detect and configure them properly.
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