Good Times

[Kraken]

NUKE YOU SO@#%#%&@&%*$@*%@#$^#$^@&%@*!!!!!

for starters, nukelear puke lives in California, not Johnson City! and! he is actually the lover of goatse and the father of tubgirl!
and......

and!!!


aw fergit it...........

[Devari]

Something tells me that Johnson City is where Kraked up Kraken lives...

Maybe we should just rename the country to the United States of Goatse, just to be safe?

Meanwhile, we can rename my country into Soviet Canuckistan. :*laughs*:

[Gen. Volkov]

COMMIE!!!!! *retargets nuke onto Devari's home town*

[The Beatles]

btw, to understand the context without experiencing the horror (well, not all of it):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shock_sites

[Devari]

Thanks, that was enough to relive the horror once again.

[The Beatles]

Oh sorry. Would really hate to remind you of Goatse or Tubgirl again. So inconsiderate of me. Whoops, there I went again.

Fortunately for me, I've not, and I don't plan to either. Actually, there was one time in which I believe that only the mighty power (slowness) of my dialup prevented me from something horrible. But as it took 10 minutes to load a 50k image, I got the top quarter well before the bottom half. So I'm not emotionally scarred, you see.

[Gen. Volkov]

I hate you Beatles. *laughs*. *Launches 15 nukes at Hungary for max saturation* *Nukes California* *The whole state, just to be sure*

[Devari]

I'd invite California to join Soviet Canuckistan, except, like Texas, no one wants them!

[Devari]

Or, rather, no SANE and WELL-ADJUSTED person. :*laughs*:

[The Beatles]

BTW, you have good cause to be proud of Poland. In WWII, the French, despite having more troops better equipped, receiving aerial and troop aid from the British, and fighting only one opponent, only survived 10 days longer than the Polish did. The Polish were attacked by two nations: Germany and Russia, and had virtually no aerial defenses, besides other outdated weaponry. Meaning the Polish fought much more valiantly. Then they also made a small contribution to the Battle of Britain at the RAF. And they helped British & French cryptologists break the Enigma codes (although Turing was the main spear-head of that effort), which resulted in the Luftwaffe messages being deciphered very soon in 1940, the navy's messages in '41, and the army's in '42.

[Devari]

Are you speaking to me or Volkov? If it's me, I already know.

[neobaron]

Hmm.

Generally antiquated, yes. Charged with cavvy, yes, but not without reason. It was actually a good strategy. Worked on a very small scale.

And dont underestimate the Polish Air Force... those PZL.11 fighters could turn inside of a Me on any given day... the problem was their lack of armour and their speed.

And the Polish contribution to the battle of britain, and the subsequent invasion of the mainland wasnt small at all! More poles fought there than French, actually, as they waited to show their face till we let them take Paris...

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See it always trips me out about how people say Germany's technology was the (Profanity is a sign of Maturity)... it wasnt... they just used what they had to its fullest potential and actually applied lessons from the SCW.

[Devari]

Germany's technology certainly was good, but they weren't the best. Soviet tanks were actually quite superior - it's just that the Red Army command didn't have the same tactical ability as the German command, and didn't use what they had to the fullest potential. The purges hadn't helped either, as quite a few good commanders were executed or exiled. Quite honestly, the Red Army focused mostly on steamroller tactics, which worked because of massive numerical superiority and good equipment - as opposed to the ill-equipped infantry charges of WWI.

But, yeah, Germany's success was all about the tactical superiority. The downfall, of course, was overestimating said tactical superiority and not making any contingencies for a winter war. It's actually kinda funny - the Germans had tactical genius, and yet they made one of the stupidest and most obvious tactical blunders possible. They might have learned from the SCW, but they certainly didn't learn from Napoleon.

[Gen. Volkov]

Um... yeah, Beatles, I'm a history minor and my primary area of study is WW2. *laughs*.


*laughs* Neo. Yup. Well at the beginning of the war anyway. By the end their tech was the shiznit. A Focke-Wulf design that the Russians captured became the Mig-15. The Me-262 was the first plane EVER to have swept wings. The Tiger and Tiger II were the best tanks of the war. There was exactly one tank that could take them out head on, and it was not built in large quantities and didn't enter service until late '44 early '45. American, can't remember name right at this moment.

Agree with you on most points Devari, specially about a land war in Asia. *laughs*.
However, the T-34 was better than alot of the German tanks, but the Panzer mk 4 had parity and the Tiger was better. The Tiger II way outclassed it.

[The Beatles]

Actually, Germany's downfall became certain well before the miserable Russian campaign. When the Luftwaffe was roundly defeated in the Battle of Britain (and look how stupid they were, they didn't even armour their planes until well into '41), their fate was becoming increasingly sealed. A high German officer confided to a Swiss neutral that Germany's position was "splendid but hopeless". They were being soundly thrashed in Africa (and yes, Rommel extended the war for some years, he was brilliant) -- to which Britain managed to send troops even in her own difficulty.

Yes, Dunkirk, the Russian campaign, and Pearl Harbor were strokes of good fortune, but even without those the fate of the war would have been the same. People overestimate Germany's might at the time.