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Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:58 am

One: Kryptonite. Two: NO. Chuck Norris sucks compared to Superman. The only person that beats Superman is Mr. Rogers. As proven by this documentary.

Also, pirates know real pirates when they see them. A bunch of asian ninjas posing as pirates would be caught and shot in no time flat.

Post by **Freenhult** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:22 am

Kraken? Pah! I bet once it show'd it ugly face, the ninja's would tranform their Zanpakutō into its true form and just massacure it. Most of them should be able to Flash Step so it shouldn't be a problem avoiding it.

And Soifon's Zanpakutō's transformed ability lets her kill a person instantly if she hits them in the sams spot twice...So Ol' Chuck would be out of luck.

And while Sparow is talking...that's all the time they need to kill him 10 times over.

I think I got all that right...*Scratches head*

Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:01 pm

Uh-huh, and what about when it breaks the back of their ship and they all go into the water? Then they are in the Kraken's element. Munch munch. Bye bye ninja's. And all these stupid special abilities, no, just no. Me and "Do or die" are talking about the historical pirates and ninjas, you are over their talking about anime and games.

And she may be able to kill Chuck, but Superman would pwn her. How do you kill someone who can't even be hurt? He's just walk over, pick her up by one hand, and throw her into outer space. Where she would pop like a balloon. Alternatively, he walks over, gets hit a few times to no effect, and then punches her face in. And he has super speed, so whatever kinda speed thing the ninja's tried, it wouldn't work.

They aren't just going to kill someone while he's talking Freen, they'd at least wait for him to draw a weapon. Unless your ninjas are completely honorless. So they'd wait, and fall under the Jack Sparrow verbal spell, and be convinced that Jack was their friend, and then they'd leave him alone.

Do or die · Post by **Do or die** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:07 pm

It's true that most ninjas would wait for someone to draw their weapon before they kill them, or else it's dishonorable, but most likely the ninjas would realize what Jack was trying to do, and kill him, plus the fact that ninjas recieve special training against enemy persuasion, and torture. So Jacks little rant wouldn't work. The other thing is, why cant Freen talk about anime, when you use movie characters?

Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:18 pm

Because, except for Superman, who was only there to go against Chuck, the movie characters, such as Jack, are at least semi-historically accurate, plus the fact that pirates have their own movie proves they are better than ninjas who only show up in anime nowadays. Freen's characters have abilities bordering on magic. Now I'll admit that Davy Jones and his crew are semi-magical as well, but I only pulled them out when Freen started talking about Flash steps and stuff. At first it was just Jack Sparrow and his crew. And no way they'd realize what Jack was doing. He is a superb con artist. They'd be nodding and walking away before they even realized what had happened.

If we are talking real, historical pirates vs. real historical ninjas, the pirates win. It's simply a matter of firepower. The most advanced weapons ninjas had were shortbows. And the only ships they would have had would have been sampans. Both of which are out ranged and out gunned by a cannon. And pirate ships had lots of cannons. Now if the ninja's could get onto the ship undetected, they might have a chance. But they'd be heavily outnumbered.

Do or die · Post by **Do or die** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:23 pm

What do you mean, pirates have their own movies, so they're better? There are more ninja movies than pirate movies, heck, there are even ninja spin off movies. Plus about the short bow thing, do you think a ninjas best weapon is really a shortbow? no, it's the shuriken, which they usually train with for YEARS, some ninjas could throw them several hundred feet, and hit a bulls eye dead on. Thats not accurate?

Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:43 pm

They cannot pocking throw a shuriken that far, and even if they can, you aren't going to do as much damage with it as a bow does. There simply is not as much force behind a shuriken as they is behind an arrow. And they train with everything for years, so they are really good at what they do. That doesn't mean they can hit a bull's eye from 100 feet away without a bit of luck.

And which of the two has been more successful? The pirate movie or the ninja movie? Uh huh. Pirates. Because they are better. Name me one ninja movie that has grossed as much as Pirates of the Carribean. That's right, you can't. Dead Man's chest ALONE, which is still IN THEATERS has grossed 304 MILLION dollars. Also, I bet there have been more major movies about pirates than about ninjas.

Do or die · Post by **Do or die** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:56 pm

Yes, ninjas can throw shuriken that far. even if pirates beat ninjas at movies, ninjas win in the video game section, might I bring up the following:
Ninja Gaiden
Splinter Cell (Yes, Ninjas!)
Halo(Master Chief had ninja training)
Fable(Want to be a ninja in that game, you pretty much can)
Need I go on?

Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:58 pm

A shuriken can not be thrown accurately more than 150 feet. That is fact. And that's being generous, and assuming the thrower is a total master at throwing them and has the upper body strength of Arnold Schwarznegger. Most info gives ranges of 30 to 50 feet. In addition they were not primary weapons, but used for a distractive effect during sword fights. For long ranged stuff, a ninja would use a bow.

Splinter Cell, Halo, and Fable do not count because they are not ABOUT Ninjas. There are at least 3 Pirate video games I can think of right off the bat.

There's Port Royale, 1 and 2, Sea Dogs, Sid Meier's pirates, and many more. Need /I/ go on?

Post by **Devari** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:27 pm

Sheesh. Everyone knows that pirates win in the end - just look at http://www.piratejesus.com/001.html !

Do or die · Post by **Do or die** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:01 am

Jesus was not a pirate...

Post by **Gen. Volkov** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:47 pm

This Jesus was.

Do or die · Post by **Do or die** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:08 pm

Look, I have proof that Jesus wasn't a pirate. Ok, everybody knows that Arnold Schwarzenneger hates pirates right? Plus everybody knows that he went back in time to save Jesus (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jc9RgctrWXI& ... arzenneger) so if he went back to save Jesus, but he hated pirates, that means he wasn't a pirate.

Post by **Devari** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:36 pm

Ah, but if you read through the comic to the end, you will see that there were many Jesi! Clown Jesus, Cowboy Jesus, Pimp Jesus, Robot Jesus, and many more! It's just that the Pirate Jesus was the strongest.

Post by **The Beatles** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:45 pm

<incredulous>There is now a plural form?</incredulous>

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