Exploits

[Freenhult]

I don't see how what that has to do with the problem. Better yet, I'm not seeing a problem. The game is working as its meant. Rome was a perfect example of whats happening. Multiple regions working together becoming a superpower. The same is expected to happen here.

[maddog]

TBH i dont think theres been one set since i been playing where one person in this game has been unbreakable i know of at least two round when some one got emperor that they could of been broken b4 hand i do believe in one round b4 the changes when arty got to emperor he did actually say himself there was one person who could of stopped him and that was me but i had choosen not too do anything about it at the time though i did break him after he got emperor status with the recent changes to the code bFR is more balanced now then it ever was BFR has never been about clan wars it has always been a netting game whereas WOA has always been about clans because its ongoing allowing for more clans to fight. unless of course i been hugely mistaken

[Nuclear Raunch]

if you dont think the networth out there is a problem then I dont know what to tell ya.

I play a crud load of games, always have and proly always will



I am in 10 games, I was in 12 but I got killed at QMT, 12 Games is a good re-start.

I cant seem to get enough turns from one game.

Fallen? Dude you gotta get some damn mages man.

BTW isn't a fair amount of your clan competition net from FA?

[Tetigustas shadowson]

No....

The only FA in my clan is Run dumping what wont sell or can’t sell.
We keep taking the land from those who don’t deserve it!
And bust up those FA shipments on your WARBANDS face!

"isn’t the networth of Sci-Ops and the other clans from
ONLY FA SHIPPMENTS
and
not from actually running a WAR"
That my Ladd, is what you should be saying!

yeah one of my 1st clansmen is trying mage for the fisrt time, other than that we only got 1 mager
Not bad for a one mage clan eh!

[Freenhult]

Wow, your not very good at this.

Sci Ops net is not from sending aid. In fact its from utilizing the ergonomics of the clan market and clan treasury. Each person in the clan most likely has a set task.

I usually farm so I would produce extra food for the clan as well. There would be a hawker to make extra money in which I buy troops and resell them for cheap in the clan market, then that money gets around to me again.

Someone might be making runes for our hawker while running so he makes non-stop cash and their might be a 2nd market to accommodate all this cash.

That is how it really works. FAing isn't cheap, its useless as it uses turns.

[topaz]

I have to admit it is very difficult to run with 10x your land in networth (like my stats in WoA 8000+ acres and 80000+ networth). I have seen several of the top people running with around 20000 acres and 150k-300k networth (depending on the status of the other players.

[Nuclear Raunch]

yeah one of my 1st clansmen is trying mage for the fisrt time, other than that we only got 1 mager
Not bad for a one mage clan eh!

I dunno man, I've seen a scan for pretty much everyone in game and I think you guys may be a bit behind once people spend their cash.

Luckily for you guys 250 bil cash left the game from the 2 kills but I think you may still be hurting at sets end.

[prog frog]

I am pretty sure there have only been four maybe five FA's in the entire lifetime of Sci-Ops. We don't overuse it and I don't see any problems with it.

[Shadow I]

FA is a tool to avoid wasting unneeded troops. It is sometime more profitable to send away troop then to sell them.

[Tetigustas shadowson]

since apperently I am <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>SMOKIN CRACK </span>about the fanominal networth in todays proms, maybe you guys could tell me where it is comming from? and how do I gety over 9 billion networth like in one of the valhall games?

or the networtth you guy seem to generate, in the FaF games.

but you do know that all my clan have full access to the treasury and if they want it then take it and I will fill ity again on my next run.

so maybe if I throw my clannies to the four winds and use all that stuff for my self, I, me alone, just my account could have a fun time in a clan of one!

[Freenhult]

This topic is amusing now.

[Shadow I]

since apperently I am <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>SMOKIN CRACK </span>about the fanominal networth in todays proms, maybe you guys could tell me where it is comming from? and how do I gety over 9 billion networth like in one of the valhall games?

or the networtth you guy seem to generate, in the FaF games.

but you do know that all my clan have full access to the treasury and if they want it then take it and I will fill ity again on my next run.

so maybe if I throw my clannies to the four winds and use all that stuff for my self, I, me alone, just my account could have a fun time in a clan of one!

you have no idea what you are talking about. Just keep at it and learn. "Net strats" are something that take skill to run, and you get that skill through experience.

[Tetigustas shadowson]

Yes quite amusing
I have been frequenting this site for a long time now, you guys spend more time slamming peeps than helping them.
its no wonder the users are so low. < wow was that a slam!
war in the threads is as good as war in the games....

Q
shadow I
you have no idea what you are talking about. Just keep at it and learn. "Net strats" are something that take skill to run, and you get that skill through experience.
/Q
I am talking bout the top networth of all the proms as out of control, as the mager and the grainer was 2 years ago!
<span style='color:red'>"Net strats" </span>
You mean enter that data into a spread sheet and VIOLA! you’re a super player!
<span style='color:blue'>I think not……</span>
Realy what you're saying is; screw my clan mates and take all the net for myself...
I can not do that.....!

Like I said; I make NET and fill the clan market n/ treasury from the meager land I have accumulated from your LumpyButts and send it to my clan mates, they use it to slap the crap out of your empires.
But never seem to hold the land, maybe they will learn to cut you deeper than they presently do.

Then maybe they will hold the net up, but we proly need to constipate on a kill run to keep that person from retaliation….

What….?
You don’t do that sort of thing around here!
Hmmm………!
So what’s the goal!
Oh yeah be the fattiest you can in 30 dayz
But slam dance on those who dare to attack you, for more than a prescribed amount of land.


<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>CRaCK SMoKeRS UNiTE</span> </span>

[Freenhult]

Lemme say this TS...

You wanna complain about it and say that we bash people, get ready to put up. You come in and start talking about "people exploiting" the code, which is really you wondering why and how people are getting nets higher than yours. Instead of asking, you make it sound broken.

Having a net 3x of your land at the end of your run is usually the max a single person can achieve. For the -good- of the clan usually one or two people will sacrifice their overall high net to either store extra, or fund other people. Eventually, there comes a role reversal when the lower people switch if they can. War happens in which their positions are cemented further and such, or netting gets boring and people just run turns out of bordum.

You it seems, and your fellow clan members are unclear about what to do in order to get a decent net from your land. Having 30,000 land means you should be around 90mil or so... which is very very good. You want to be at least 2x otherwise you're landfat and not really doing it right. If you want to get rolling, I'd save up some money and troops and have one person landgrab off the people in the Top 5. Since they're all clanned, its an invitation. We're not hogging anything since we're making the land available to anyone who can get it. Thats logical and how land should flow.

So instead of ranting about how it doesn't seem right and smoking crack and junk. Please just in coherent paragraphs say what you mean and want. Sarcasm won't win you friends around here I'd say.

[Shadow I]

Different strats have different strengths and weaknesses.

mage can sustain the highest net/land ratio while using turns regularly, but general offense is more difficult and available troops are limited.
reseller can make huge profits without ever using a turn, but general defense is more difficult
indy will always have the advantage when it comes to attacking, but is weak to mage attacks

Others I won't get into at the moment. Depending on your style of play, you can win with any one of those strats. All of them excel in a team, where the weaknesses of one strat can be covered by the strength of another. Solo is more difficult, no doubt about it, but being able to achieve a high net is not an exploit by any means, it is simply knowing how to get the most out of every turn.

For example, Freen has an agra-indy strat where he has calculated the exact building ratios he needs to supply himself with cash via food while massing troops. This is an excellent strat, good for offense and defense both, and he could probably achieve some pretty impressive nets with it, but it is not an exploit, it is simply a case of a player taking the time to maximize his output.

That's what I mean by "keep at it and you will improve." Keep working on your strategies, observe what other players do, and learn from your mistakes, and you will soon be able to lock the land with 10x land net yourself.