Logging in as invisible

Death · Post by **Death** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:50 am

I don't remember if I have brought this up or not, so I will. Let's take a look at the positives and negatives of having the option to log in but not be shown online.

You can watch others run, which is helpful if you're trying to rob them. On the other hand if you don't want to get robbed and like to run while nobody else is online, someone could just be waiting and you would have no way to know.

I have not seen a single person do this, but if you were to run turns while appearing offline someone could just look at the scores page once and easily make the mistake of thinking you are offline, which would lead to you getting onlined.

Let me just stop myself, why is it even here? If you are going to run turns you should be shown online, and if you're just logging in to check it shouldn't matter. The only real use I see if camping waiting to rob someone, which is incredibly hard to counter.

So why keep it?

Edit, it also might be worth mentioning that you have a "view top 100" option without logging in. So I guess the only real use for logging in invisible is camping, which I would think is discouraged.

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:36 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you only stay invisible if you are not actively using turns.

Post by **Devari** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:46 am

Nope, you stay invisible regardless.

Anyway, I'm all for disabling it, and I think it's pretty trivial to do. I'd like to hear a few more opinions, though...

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:54 am

Well why not make it so that you can log in and stay invisible as long as you don't do anything to change your net?

Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:57 am

Because you can just sit there waiting for someone to run turns to rob them or such.

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:03 am

you can do the exact same thing without logging in by looking at the top players page and refreshing it every so often.

Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:10 am

Yes. You can. But the person running has a chance if you are just looking at the top 100. Because, you know, you have to sign in to attack, and they could see that.

Post by **Devari** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:17 am

Because that's a lot of needless coding?

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:21 am

I know nothing about coding. If it is easier to simply get rid of invisible logins, then I am all for that as well.

Post by **Devari** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:21 am

It's pretty simple - either we have the current invisible login system, or we don't. No need for "invisible-till-you-run-turns". That's pointless extra work, and really doesn't add anything at all.

The one reason I can think of for invisible logins is anonymity - much like with the forum software. It's a privacy thing, I guess. Still, that seems like a fairly minor consideration...

Anyone else reading this?

Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:51 am

People knowing if you're online or not is part of the game, imo. So I'd like to see it all gone, but that's not up to me.

Post by **Freenhult** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:53 am

I thought this was already gone?

Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:55 am

No, part of the set of suggestions I made for Duels was to remove it, and Dev accidentally removed it from all games. But that's been fixed, regrettably.

Post by **Devari** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:04 am

I don't think it was an accident, actually.

Death · Post by **Death** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:22 am

Hahahah, great. So are we all in agreement?

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