The land drop Strat

[Tetigustas shadowson]

Proof is in the pudding 'Err uh' BFR (NOT WOA),
you are standing on a broken soapbox shouting to the four winds.
I keep telling you WOA is broken,
you keep saying it's all because I dropped a measly 80,000 acres.
Why you cannot see the forest for the trees I will never know,
maybe its your blood lust for me.

Shadow
Dropping land only benefits the skilled players
Land dropping can be used against emps

Shadow; you are speculating on a faulty factoid,
you have no basis to found you opinion.
In one breath,
you say this is viable
in the other
you say I do not have the skillz to pull it off.

Yet wait......
BFR is all-smallish-like how can that be?
I am not doing it right!

It is because of what I am doing that your war bands are smallish too,
so what is the problem?
Oh yeah you do not quite own in BFR,
as you have abused WOA 'Err uh' owned WOA.
And now that you know why, you're all but hurt.

Let me spell it out:

#1: WOA broken (obviously) because Sci-Ops has horribly off balanced the game.

#2 Sci-Ops has locked the WOA scores, taking advantage of game mechanix.

#3: BFR is manageable and breaking you is possible.

#4: I dropped all the land in BFR your clan would have used to manipulate the game mechanix

#5: you or any one else will never fully own BFR with a totally off balanced clan because 'I will not let you'

Shadow your skillz are better then that,
I saw you use it in the other games.
Why do you not use these skillz for war instead of gamelocking???????

Oh yeah; its the cheap n easy win your after.

I will continue to play my way and you may continue to play your way.
Some where in the middle, we will clash like the titans of old.

As for sacking those who stand against Sci-Ops!
You only give the land to them because you cannot hold it your selves,
why do you think that after an entire month.
I changed to a dropping strat,
a bad choice that did not pay off because of broken game mechanix!

If WOA wasn't so badly broken in several spots this Super Clan would not occur

[Death]

Dropping land does nothing but make it harder for people to beat those who already have a huge lead.

[Nuclear Raunch]

OK I'm a little confused here, can you walk me through this logic once more? I kinda lose it when it gets to the part that if a clan has 3 empires that run on 100k land every day why would you want to drop your land so you run on 10k instead of on 100k?

Don't get me wrong, I've done a bit of dropping in times past and have been a big proponent of allowing land dropping (with much tighter restrictions than we currently have) so it's not like I'm against dropping of any type, I just phail to see the logic in it in this scenario.

[Tetigustas shadowson]

Nuclear Raunch Posted on Apr 8 2008, 10:09 PM

A clan has 3 empires that run on 100k land every day why would you want to drop your land so you run on 10k instead of on 100k?

This strategy ‘is not’ the one to use in a clan, unless you’re a mage clan; then dropping safe amounts would be beneficial. EG matching mage count to tower counts ect.

But a ‘solo clan’ (yeah a clan with no tag) or ‘personal ally’ that should side along with ‘personal war’, this would benefit those war bands moreover; then a run o the mill clan.
Clans like Sci-Ops and WoA, we all know clans like these are always under attack, Then land is what they need to keep from getting killed, call it a buffer, which gives one more time to catch warbands attacking.
Shadow sat on some 45 acres for nearly a day in the annual Valhall / CC, before some one killed him. Only because he had more land then the clan could take in their kill run, and one member didn’t log on in time to finish him off!

So NO it isn’t a benefit to those users, but is definitely one for the solo user.

[Guest]

If anybody does your land drop idea in WoA, they will officially be the most retarded person alive. People need land to build up troops, those already with troops when the land is dropped will just crush everyone else and take whatever is left, then nobody will be able to do anything cause some idiot dropped all the land they need to do something. You think it's a good strat, fine, everyone has the right to their opinion, even though I think you are horribly mistaken.

[Tetigustas shadowson]

How many times do I have to explain how the strat works!
And how many times do I have to say
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOA is BROKEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN ONLY DROP ONCE PER FRIGGIN LIFETIME!
juses crest cant anyone freeking read!
http://frostnflame.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3739

I am beginning to repeat my self and have been accused of slamming the same topic in several threads already, so you’re just going to have to re-read the thread

Quit being lazy and get your granny glasses out!

As it shows in WOA the ranks are out of balance
A steady decline of land would force the low ranks to address the top ten.
Instead of quibbling over land until some one gathers enough for the top ten to take and hold it in their netfat emp!
WOA ranks are ridiculously out of balance for a game the supposedly never resets!
And only a land drop strat or code change can repair the damage done!

[Guest]

Now grasp this around that little brain of yours. Cause I have mentioned this already but you seem to slow to catch on. THEY CAN EASILY BE BROUGHT DOWN. JUST MAGE SUICIDE THE TOP TWO THEN MURDER THEM. Even if the land is only at the top, if they can't do anything cause they are all on 20k land, it won't matter. They can gang up to their hearts content and do nothing. Unless they do the smart thing and mage suicide then murder, but then you don't need to drop land anyways!

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

[Guest]

how old are you?
that would be a good topic right beside
what do you do for a living?

[Freenhult]

Please stop hiding. I know one is Arthus. I'll assume the other is TS. Sign in.

[Tetigustas shadowson]

I am only hiding in the games!

I am very much in this thread!

I do agree however that AGE / WORK should be a topic, if it was I would post my human stats!

A land dropping strat will prevail, long as I am alive!

A fact still looms in BFR, if you care to look; land dropping is showing its true potential!

It is already happening; shadow is one over dune cookie, and has been slain!

With out a serious and relentless land dropping strat, this net limitation and a few warband destructions would have never happened.

IN Battle for Redwall <NOT War Of Ages!>

[Lord Arthus]

Shadow was never ahead this round...

[Tetigustas shadowson]

not #1 but top ten, I believe he was ranking #4 his clan was ahead of ours and we needed him dead to lower the overall clan rank so that ours was at least second. Place.

You can not deny the ranks in BFR are smaller than last set, try if you can to tell me what has made this so…?

its truth...........................


OOOOPs there goes another 15,000 ...............

[Death]

You know, actually, there is one point in time where dropping land can be beneficial that I had forgotten about. As a Mage, how much certain spells cost and produce can be determined by the amount of land you have. So you could get land, spend some turns getting your Wizards per Mage Tower to the max (Spies per.. whatever they go in) then demolish until it's at the absolute highest ratio (if it even works like that here) then drop the unused land so you're ToGing (casting Raise Taxes) on a perfect Wizard per Mage Tower ratio with the lowest Rune cost you can get.

Other than that I see no point, and I don't even know if it works like that here.

[Freenhult]

Yes, but overall it doesn't work too well.

TS: The ranks are closer because well. There are 2 clans. And it happens to be that one of the clans is a VERY SKILLED clan. Infact, we're the best We'll run away with the game near the end of the set. Theres no need now, and we understand that.

[Shadow I]

Shadow; you are speculating on a faulty factoid,
you have no basis to found you opinion.
In one breath,
you say this is viable
in the other
you say I do not have the skillz to pull it off.

you are taking what i said out of context. read the whole phrase.

Why do you not use these skillz for war instead of gamelocking???????

I want an emp title on FAF, when I have that I will release the land. It would have happened already but Arthus reset the counter.

Shadow was never ahead this round...

i was number one with double the net of the current #1 for about a week. I could have gone on to lock if i had unclanned, but I didn't want to be a jerk in both games.



To argue the point a little further: Yes, dropping land will make people feel more need to break the land hoggers, BUT it also takes away their only means of doing so. You incite a desire to take down the emp while at the same time destroying your only hope of actually doing it.