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Death · Post by **Death** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:22 am

1. Not here, not as long as your players leave holes and your code encourages landpassing. "Smacking someone down" is still useful in destroying networth, but it will not stop them from recovering no matter how badly it is done here.

2. Yes, recovering is easy and the Reserve makes it even easier. It's so easy that people do not use the reserve for its' intended purpose, they use it to store networth with severely reduced upkeep. Meaning it is no longer a tool of recovery, it is a netgaining aid.

3. No, it makes the game easier.

I feel like there's some unintentional aggressive tone to my posts, if there is it's just an accidental thing.

Alazar · Post by **Alazar** » Sat May 17, 2008 4:23 am

Death wrote: Anyone can recover from anything, FaF and most of Promisance games are loaded with players who leave holes.

Actually Faf is the most defensive server i have ever played on, it seems to me that most players do NOT leave holes.

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Sat May 17, 2008 4:31 pm

Ruddertail wrote: Well, yeah... there's that.

Given that,

1. Is it reasonably possible for a player or coalition of players to really "smack down" a another player, that is, knock his networth down and, through persistent attacks, prevent him from getting it back up again?

2. Does the reserve change the possibility and/or difficulty of such a "smack down"?

3. Is that a positive thing?

1. No, not if the player has a decent idea of the dynamics of defense and is capable of single troop massing. I suppose it could work if kept up over a period of days or weeks and the guy getting smashed was clanned, but for all the effort they would just be better off killing him.

2. Yes it does, because the reserve is essentially what the name implies - something to fall back on if you get owned.

3. No, not at all. FAF is already a very defense oriented game, and the reserve takes it a little too far down that road in my opinion.

Post by **Freenhult** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:58 am

3. No, not at all. FAF is already a very defense oriented game, and the reserve takes it a little too far down that road in my opinion.

I'd say the opposite. FaF is very aggressive. The defensive aspect is there, but its been reinforced. However, being able to really grind and push the pedal down is a bit easier here. Thats part of what makes the recovery process easier.

The reserves don't really add or take away anything. If you were at $200 mil networth, and you get smashed down to 5,000 land and still have $150 mil worth of other net, the reserve doesn't do you a dang thing of good. However, if you have $20mil and get nearly killed, it lets you have a running start at not being killed.

Death · Post by **Death** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:58 am

Alazar wrote:
Death wrote: Anyone can recover from anything, FaF and most of Promisance games are loaded with players who leave holes.
Actually Faf is the most defensive server i have ever played on, it seems to me that most players do NOT leave holes.

Every time I run turns I find a hole or weakspot.

Shadow I · Post by **Shadow I** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:57 pm

Death wrote:
Alazar wrote:
Death wrote: Anyone can recover from anything, FaF and most of Promisance games are loaded with players who leave holes.
Actually Faf is the most defensive server i have ever played on, it seems to me that most players do NOT leave holes.
Every time I run turns I find a hole or weakspot.

So do we all. That's kinda the make or break point of every run in prom. What's your point here?

Death · Post by **Death** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:52 pm

He was saying that FaF was defensive, and that he thinks most players do not leave holes. I corrected him.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon May 19, 2008 10:13 pm

On FAF I play defensive. I almost always leave towers up at the end of my runs, and I never leave gaping holes. It is actually possible to defend effectively solo here, unlike many prom games. Many other players do the same thing. FAF is much more defensive than RWL and Valhall, where the only effective solo defense is a god offense. I don't know much about other proms.

Alazar · Post by **Alazar** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:06 am

Exactly, most other promis seem to leave a major hole where they have no troops.

Here at faf rarely does a person leave a gaping hole like that except for me of course!

Death · Post by **Death** » Tue May 20, 2008 8:56 pm

I don't know why you think that, you must just not be looking for them.

Plus, uhm, you don't need to be able to store 25% of a given unit just to recover. lol

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:04 pm

Which side are you arguing here? I know you don't have to restore to recover, that's the point - with storage in the picture it's TOO EASY!

Death · Post by **Death** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:57 pm

The "Reserve is overpowered" side.

Post by **Ruddertail** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:32 pm

Hrm. Well, I'm not exactly sure what the procedure for requesting something be changed, in this sort of situation. I guess... Death, if you want this changed, why don't you go ahead and make a poll in GD, asking, "Remove the Reserve for the reasons noted below: Yes or No?" And then lay out your rationale in the post - it shouldn't be hard, you've about done it here, so just condense it into one post.

Edit: If not, somebody needs to talk to Beatles or Devari about getting the numbers checked.

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